As the PTR World Turns
Generally speaking, the biggest news in PTR at the moment seems to be that their owners are having a harder time running their programs as more companies decide they don't want to have anything to do with PTR. Moneybookers has completely banned PTR-related payments, although the last time I checked they hadn't changed the Terms & Conditions published on their site. Paypal is freezing more Program Owners' accounts. Google has banned Adsense from PTR-related sites. And apparently quite a few of the 'parked domain' companies are banning PTR traffic as well. Which is really putting a lot of POs in a bit of a jam -- especially if their members expect 50 1-cent emails a day.
As for specific programs, the latest, as far as I know, includes:
Neonlights-Advertising is for sale. The current owner, Mike Laskey, had another Paypal account frozen, and he's given up playing games with them. He's apparently made an arrangement with a friend to do one final payment, and let everybody know ahead of time so that they can delete their accounts if they don't want their membership or payment info shared with anybody. Mike also owns HaulingCash, which has been in a lot of trouble for a long time. He was supposedly using some of the profits from Neon to make payments to long-suffering HaulingCash members, but the profits in PTR are so thin I don't think it was having much of an impact. I've been waiting for payment for over a year, and there are still hundreds of other people ahead of me in the payment queue.
Class-Act-Clicks has been sold. Moving from a pair of unscrupulous owners, Tiffany "Metiff" Stanton and Brian "bkoxefwo" Oxenreider, to a new owner, Tim "mitgib" Flavin, who also seems to be just as shady as they were. I've always avoided this program like the plague, given that Brian has a bad history with another failed program called YourPTR, and Tiffany was one of April Gold's gang back when she was pulling one of the biggest scams in PTR history. I don't think this change of ownership is going to have any sort of positive effect on my opinion of the program.
Be-Paid, another fairly popular PTR with nearly 2000 members, has had it's Paypal account frozen as well. People are really freaking out about the Paypal freezes. Strangely, they seem to directing most of their anger at the person or people who are reporting all these PTRs to Paypal, if that's how these sites are coming to Paypal's attention. You might think they'd be upset with the Program Owners who put their accounts in jeopardy by breaking or seriously bending Paypal's rules. But not in PTR. In PTR, if you discover somebody doing something dishonest, unethical, or even blatently illegal, you're supposed to either forget about it and keep on clicking, or if you're some kind of holier-than-thou, goodie-two-shoes types, you're supposed to just delete yourself from the program and leave it for those who aren't so picky about things like ethics and law.
And speaking of freaking out, the owner of TheClickersClub, Darryn 'Kotafides' Wilson, really went off the deep end after his site went down, his host disappeared, and he discovered that people (including me) were saying things about him and his program that he didn't like. When I say off the deep end, I mean waaaaaay off. Ranting, cussing, throwing tantrums like a two-year-old. Making threats (including several to me), telling people they didn't deserve to live and that he hoped they died horrible, painful deaths. It really has to be seen to be believed. Again, I'm not going to give them any link-love, but searching for posts made by 'Darryn' over at the Who-is-Who forum will show you the worst of it. The dude is a psycho. The really sad part is, despite his psychotic behaviour and apparent incompetence and negligence, over 40 people have already joined (or re-joined) his program. Some people are gluttons for punishment.
That's all for now, but I'm sure there'll be more news, gossip and drama soon.
As for specific programs, the latest, as far as I know, includes:
Neonlights-Advertising is for sale. The current owner, Mike Laskey, had another Paypal account frozen, and he's given up playing games with them. He's apparently made an arrangement with a friend to do one final payment, and let everybody know ahead of time so that they can delete their accounts if they don't want their membership or payment info shared with anybody. Mike also owns HaulingCash, which has been in a lot of trouble for a long time. He was supposedly using some of the profits from Neon to make payments to long-suffering HaulingCash members, but the profits in PTR are so thin I don't think it was having much of an impact. I've been waiting for payment for over a year, and there are still hundreds of other people ahead of me in the payment queue.
Class-Act-Clicks has been sold. Moving from a pair of unscrupulous owners, Tiffany "Metiff" Stanton and Brian "bkoxefwo" Oxenreider, to a new owner, Tim "mitgib" Flavin, who also seems to be just as shady as they were. I've always avoided this program like the plague, given that Brian has a bad history with another failed program called YourPTR, and Tiffany was one of April Gold's gang back when she was pulling one of the biggest scams in PTR history. I don't think this change of ownership is going to have any sort of positive effect on my opinion of the program.
Be-Paid, another fairly popular PTR with nearly 2000 members, has had it's Paypal account frozen as well. People are really freaking out about the Paypal freezes. Strangely, they seem to directing most of their anger at the person or people who are reporting all these PTRs to Paypal, if that's how these sites are coming to Paypal's attention. You might think they'd be upset with the Program Owners who put their accounts in jeopardy by breaking or seriously bending Paypal's rules. But not in PTR. In PTR, if you discover somebody doing something dishonest, unethical, or even blatently illegal, you're supposed to either forget about it and keep on clicking, or if you're some kind of holier-than-thou, goodie-two-shoes types, you're supposed to just delete yourself from the program and leave it for those who aren't so picky about things like ethics and law.
And speaking of freaking out, the owner of TheClickersClub, Darryn 'Kotafides' Wilson, really went off the deep end after his site went down, his host disappeared, and he discovered that people (including me) were saying things about him and his program that he didn't like. When I say off the deep end, I mean waaaaaay off. Ranting, cussing, throwing tantrums like a two-year-old. Making threats (including several to me), telling people they didn't deserve to live and that he hoped they died horrible, painful deaths. It really has to be seen to be believed. Again, I'm not going to give them any link-love, but searching for posts made by 'Darryn' over at the Who-is-Who forum will show you the worst of it. The dude is a psycho. The really sad part is, despite his psychotic behaviour and apparent incompetence and negligence, over 40 people have already joined (or re-joined) his program. Some people are gluttons for punishment.
That's all for now, but I'm sure there'll be more news, gossip and drama soon.
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